tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14857092.post3304591212692649012..comments2024-03-16T02:16:54.082-07:00Comments on Vagabond Scholar: Rivkin's Protean Logic on TortureBatocchiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02193752396025012825noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14857092.post-25935001016008509672009-03-24T01:35:00.000-07:002009-03-24T01:35:00.000-07:00Mr. Nance, you're absolutely right. I'm very frus...Mr. Nance, you're absolutely right. I'm very frustrated anything like this comes up at all. I think it's more fashionable now for torture apologists to claim that torture works. Accounts from you, Matthew Alexander and others - and our own history - should have settled these matters long ago. Should there be criminal trials, I'm sure we'll hear this all over again. I'd like a thorough Batocchiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02193752396025012825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14857092.post-82508124234706019182009-03-24T00:49:00.000-07:002009-03-24T00:49:00.000-07:00Good analysis ... but are we back to "debating" th...Good analysis ... but are we back to "debating" this again? or is Rivkin now apologist in chief for the next wave of pleas for immunity? Well as we say in the intelligence community, if the subject is on the table there is something or someone behind it. We should find out. I debated Rivkin on BBC's hardtalk in 2008 and it was a complete waste of time. His ideological "Third Way" argument andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14857092.post-16346953986251593642009-03-13T11:14:00.000-07:002009-03-13T11:14:00.000-07:00Minstrel Boy, I agree completely, and only wish we...Minstrel Boy, I agree completely, and only wish we could select the guests for a national talk show to cut down on hacks, false equivalencies and general bullshit, or grill those that pull that crap. It doesn't fly in a good classroom, and Rivkin and the pals he's trying to protect certainly don't want to be making their arguments in a courtroom. Most torture supporters are speaking out of Batocchiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02193752396025012825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14857092.post-17087331304233628312009-03-13T00:52:00.000-07:002009-03-13T00:52:00.000-07:00very well done piece. sound reasoning, although i...very well done piece. sound reasoning, although in my experience that won't get you anywhere when debating people on this issue.<BR/><BR/>the mere fact that this is a matter for debate at all makes me sick.<BR/><BR/>i tell the apologists that. i tell them that i feel like i'm having to explain to a bunch of asshole teenagers that the proper way to dispose of puppies does not involve throwing The Minstrel Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00697821546165315014noreply@blogger.com